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Tom Dooner
16:28
Hello everyone! When chatting make sure to select “Panelists and Attendees” so that everyone sees your chat messages!
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
16:30
yayyyyy
Matt Bernius (he/him)
16:50
Good morning!
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
17:00
Yay. VT represent.
Tim Eccleston
17:07
Thanks for the reminder, Tom!
Daniel Meegan (Code for Boston)
17:11
Good afternoon, from Boston!
Tim Eccleston
17:16
Good morning, everyone! (from Nashville)
Christopher Boe
17:17
Happy Saturday from CodeForPDX!
Heather [she/her]
17:21
From Milwaukee; just came from an atheist meetup.
Matt Bernius (he/him)
17:26
CfA Rochester NY representing!
Christopher Boe
17:30
Happy Saturday from CodeForPDX!
Heather [she/her]
17:31
(Online, of courrse)
Tim Eccleston
17:33
woot wow!
Will Pfeffer
17:54
Hello from Boston!
Christopher Boe
18:03
West Coast best coast ;)
Mike Brown (Code for Buffalo)
18:07
Hello from Buffalo!
Eric Renz-Whitmore
18:12
Good morning from Albuquerque, New Mexico!
Jacob Venable
18:19
Hiya from Boulder 👋
Tom Dooner
18:23
Bae Area represent
Alina Ristea
18:26
Hello from Boston!
Jim Kammerer
18:29
Hello from Helena, Montana
Rene Joy
18:32
Good morning from Orlando-area Florida!
Regan Hutson
18:36
Good Morning from Pasadena, CA. Home of the actual Pawnee City Hall.
Eric Renz-Whitmore
18:37
They're all great Portlands!
Jim Kammerer
18:49
It is still snowing....6 inches.
Rene Joy
19:00
Good morning from Orlando-area Florida! (doing that again now that I remembered to change it to panelists/attendees)
Matt Bernius (he/him)
19:04
<3 VLS & South Royalton (esp. Chelsea Station)!
Veronica2
19:21
Good morning from Oakland, CA!
Jeanne Eicks
19:33
Awesome! Chelsea Station.
Tim Eccleston
20:12
Most states have a portland! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland
Andrew (he/him) CfA Fellow
20:25
Good morning from a teammember of the CfA fellowship!
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
20:45
Those are ET times
Tom Dooner
21:00
https://c4a.me/coc
Tim Eccleston
21:41
Yay - Theory of Change sessions! and participate in their cool pol.is beforehand: https://thadk.net/cfa-brigade-congress-polis/
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
23:34
Hah
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
23:49
Yes
Rene Joy
23:56
I like the running theme of "call out bullshit" in keynotes so far.
Em Burnett (they/them)
24:09
If you have questions, please use the “Q&A” box to submit them :)
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
25:29
Ski hills be happy
Heather [she/her]
29:42
The polls don't show up in the Zoom web client.
Tom Dooner
29:43
Aw, I can’t submit only Q1
Matt Bernius (he/him)
29:47
Wow have to fill out all to submit
Eric Renz-Whitmore
29:53
Yep
Kristi Leach
30:32
holy crap
Tom Dooner
30:46
Holy cow
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
30:57
Oy … 80% for disabled
Noel Hidalgo
31:36
Amazing how many people need assistance in every which way.
Meredith Horowski (she/her)
31:55
Real time iteration. We love to see it!
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
32:43
I see it
Meredith Horowski (she/her)
32:44
Yep we see it!
Yetnayet Aberra
33:17
wow
Cecilia Fischer-Benitez
33:18
Oh wow
Rene Joy
33:39
I'm definitely surprised by the housing issue.
Rene Joy
34:04
States will take on pursuing child support on behalf of safety net recipients in many cases. I wonder if that's what's reflected there.
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
36:35
F-yeah
Rene Joy
37:00
I know myself and others in my community thend roll our eyes at the suggestion we ask our Legal Aid society for help.
Nicole Bradick
38:43
Legal Services Corporation = federally funded org that provides grants to legal aid orgs.
Matt Bernius (he/him)
39:06
TY Nicole!
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
46:03
This talk is great.
Rene Joy
46:24
This was really tough one.
Eric Renz-Whitmore
46:41
Great content - thank you.
Eric Renz-Whitmore
47:07
Wow.
Yetnayet Aberra
48:57
So interesting to see the disparity between the Health as top priority for families and communities and the legal services available.
Nicole Bradick
49:32
Designers, shield your eyes! :)
Em Burnett (they/them)
50:01
Q&A is going to be coming up in a few minutes. Consider submitting a question for Jeannette & Nicole to the Q&A box!
Ethan McElvaney
50:34
Too late, I’ve gone blind!
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
51:27
“Parking attendants hate this! (Click here)”
Tom Dooner
53:42
(Lol, I love the Windows icons being used for the car windows.)
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
54:27
Can we do this for domestic violence situations?
Nicole Bradick
54:42
It’s now a part of Tyler Tech
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
55:15
Modria is at Tyler?
Nicole Bradick
55:35
Sold to Tyler 3ish years ago. The founder Colin has recently left.
Nicole Bradick
56:10
Nick, can we do what for DV situations?
Kristi Leach
56:28
I still recommend Krug’s book to anyone who wants to get a basic understanding of UX
Kristi Leach
56:35
both his books,actually
Ethan McElvaney
56:50
His books are incredible!
Ethan McElvaney
56:58
*book
Matt Bernius (he/him)
56:58
Krug’s book, along with Don Normans “Design of Everyday things”, are great primers on UX!
Jaime Varela
57:19
"law is designed not to be accessible", I've always thought this
Ethan McElvaney
57:47
Also, the Nielsen/Norman Group (co-founded by Don Norman) has a very informative blog and website about UX
Nicole Bradick
57:47
In law school, the most common mantra was “Law is a lawyer-driver process”
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
58:51
We tried to use the Maryland code base - they wouldn’t share it.
Rene Joy
59:23
"Movement capture" is a huge issue for tech issues that serve low income people.
Rene Joy
59:33
^ to Nick
Nicole Bradick
59:52
Really? That’s surprising to me. I know those guys and think there must be something else at play. Sometimes it’s the funders who prevent it.
Rene Joy
01:00:23
That's when I would advise friends to find new funders. ;) Much easier said than done of course
Heather [she/her]
01:00:28
What's the technical reason some of these projects are implemented as Chrome extensions?
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
01:00:39
I can explain later
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
01:00:56
Clap clap clap
Pamela @CfG (SC)
01:01:06
I’m excited to share this talk with my brigade. Thanks!
Rene Joy
01:01:13
I felt like so much of my life story was up on that screen. Thank you Jeanette!
Ethan McElvaney
01:01:18
This was a great panel, thanks!
Matt Bernius (he/him)
01:01:44
Also, brigades can check to see if there is a chapter of Legal Hackers (https://legalhackers.org/) in your locale to see if you can connect.
Em Burnett (they/them)
01:01:59
https://live.remo.co/e/justice-tech-and-design-cross-co
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
01:02:11
sweet
Michelle
01:02:26
There’s also A2J Slack! We’ve got some technologists on there
Nicole Bradick
01:02:39
That’s the one we run!
Tim Eccleston
01:02:46
Our Immigrant Power of Attorney app came out of a Music City Legal Hackers hackathon! :)
Michelle
01:02:58
https://join.slack.com/t/a2jtech/shared_invite/zt-ecv9h8zm-ELVwVZhWL84jBmOU27wX4w
Matt Bernius (he/him)
01:03:08
That’s awesome Tim!
Michelle
01:03:13
That’s where the Assembly Line project is doing its work right now.
Michelle
01:04:00
100% Ms. Bradick - definitely could use some designers on board, though we do a lot of work with plain language and context.
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
01:04:04
Bonnie Woolf - bring in your UX army!
Rene Joy
01:04:31
I'm thinking of my grandfather, a lawyer and legal scholar, who felt there was nothing wrong with taping four TV removes around cardboard with duct tape....
Rene Joy
01:04:39
Rather than purchase an all-in-one remote...
Rene Joy
01:05:41
Everyone I ever talked to kept directing me to HUD or Legal Aid, and Legal Aid kept telling me HUD.
Heather [she/her]
01:07:06
The game idea sounds really good.
Rene Joy
01:07:45
I will offer that making games that explore social issues can sometimes create unintentional insensitivity. But, it's still very true that we learn so well through 'play'.
Heather [she/her]
01:09:25
If the game does create unintentional insensitivity, then that would be an honest mistake, and mistakes are a good part of how we learn.
Rene Joy
01:09:37
It's tough because protection for the vulnerable can turn paternalistic at some, instead.
Jaime Varela
01:10:20
Open source tends to be more secure paradoxically because you have more eyes looking at the codebase as well faster bug fix cycle (not constrained by release calendars).
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
01:11:26
Does the EFF help with promoting FOSS to A2J types of work?
Em Burnett (they/them)
01:12:18
I invite folks to contribute their questions here, if we don’t get to them! https://discourse.codeforamerica.org/t/jeanne-eicks-keynote-tech-justice/946
Heather [she/her]
01:12:44
Like all code, the law can (and does) have bugs and glitches in it.
Rene Joy
01:13:58
GREAT ADVICE
Matt Bernius (he/him)
01:14:03
++++++++!
Tim Eccleston
01:14:22
How can we get on those contract reviews!
Rene Joy
01:14:27
I have a guess.
Em Burnett (they/them)
01:14:41
Maine got locked down as well, if I’m remembering correctly.
Nicole Bradick
01:14:43
Rhymes with snyler snechologies?
Rene Joy
01:14:58
If I name them, can you say it??? ;D Deloitte, isn't it?
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
01:15:07
Myler bechbologies
Rene Joy
01:15:12
That's the same contractor I mention in my question about SNAP/Medicaid software.
Matt Bernius (he/him)
01:15:21
Which is a pattern with a LOT of criminal legal system tech as well (passing the costs onto the impacted folks).
Matt Bernius (he/him)
01:15:43
Well played Nick.
Rene Joy
01:16:25
You'll hear from me for sure!!
Nick Floersch (C4BTV)
01:16:28
Clap clap clap clap clap
Jeanne Eicks
01:16:29
jeicks@gmail.com
Nicole Bradick
01:16:32
nicole@theoryandprinciple.com
Yetnayet Aberra
01:16:33
thank you for a great presentation!