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Network ReVisioning: Draft Review Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Rene Joy (she/they)
14:04
I will mainly be chat-forward and off-cam myself, so I'll use chat for intro -- I'm involved with ReVis as a draft author and continue to help the Network Team with development around Revis subjects. So excited to get more conversation on this topic in particular!
Rene Joy (she/they)
16:05
Also so glad you could make it today Rebecca!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
16:13
+++
rebecca deutsch (she/her)
16:40
Thanks! I’m glad it fit in my schedule! Excited to help however I can!
Bonnie Wolfe
16:42
https://www.hackforla.org/communities-of-practice
Em Burnett (they/them)
16:46
Tim, Annie, & Yeti are remaining for intros I believe
Annie
17:11
I also need to be off camera & mostly chat. Captain of Code for San Jose. We’re interested in participating in a communities of practice in our brigade & broadly.
Ben Treviño (he/him)
18:01
Well played on the usage of “run”, Tim.
Tim L
18:13
xD
Jennifer Miller
18:27
Sharing link to slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1J6dJcw_XmeluuZztrXgckzBrtYK2MWMUpcwAGUOsgG8/edit?usp=sharing
Bonnie Wolfe
21:08
I wont be able to stay the whole time, have a pre existing. not personal. I'll watch the recording when its published
Rene Joy (she/they)
22:11
I love CoPractice! I've also been shortening it to CoPrax for CoPraxis
Tim L
22:22
ooh
Janet Michaelis (she/her)
24:35
Praxis has a medical meaning too
Janet Michaelis (she/her)
25:44
It isn’t a disease though so it’s OK
Rene Joy (she/they)
25:54
Just took a quick google glance at that and appreciate its medical meaning relevant to the civic/social use
Rene Joy (she/they)
27:38
Word Nerd Powers activated
Ben Treviño (he/him)
30:34
Time check - we have two minutes left for this section according to the agenda
Rene Joy (she/they)
30:44
No questions, just appreciation for the specificity!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
30:55
+++
rebecca deutsch (she/her)
31:51
FYI, this is the exact model that the United Way requires funding requests to be documented (industry standard!)
Rene Joy (she/they)
33:49
Love the Wenger & Snyder article -- the way it describes the realities of CoPractice creation and cultivation is very relevant to what I saw from ReVis feedback that led to CoPrax becoming a formal proposed piece of it
Jennifer Miller
33:57
https://easyretro.io/publicboard/UfXpTpIVLtQqofu1vjUGDlYRZM33/1293c744-93b5-43c2-92c7-7ba6b0dd63d8
Ben Treviño (he/him)
36:40
Timecheck question, Jennifer, are we aiming to be at “build consensus, discuss conflicting ideas” at :45 after the hour?
Jennifer Miller
36:51
If possible!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
39:31
Got it! Thank you!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
41:35
Is stronger healthier brigades possibly an impact rather than an outcome?
Marianne Anthonette Miranda
41:52
Hi Mary!
Em Burnett (they/them)
42:00
Could make the case for that @ben!
Mary C Norris
42:04
Hi There!!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
42:05
Welcome Mary!
Mary C Norris
42:13
Thank you!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
42:23
Mary, here is the easy retro: https://easyretro.io/publicboard/UfXpTpIVLtQqofu1vjUGDlYRZM33/1293c744-93b5-43c2-92c7-7ba6b0dd63d8
Ben Treviño (he/him)
42:46
And here are the slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1J6dJcw_XmeluuZztrXgckzBrtYK2MWMUpcwAGUOsgG8/edit#slide=id.g1010d440bb7_0_49
Mary C Norris
43:08
Appreciate it!
Tim L
44:43
this is a LOT of good stuff!
Rene Joy (she/they)
48:23
I suggested the policy impact example
Ben Treviño (he/him)
48:28
4 minutes to building consensus section!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
48:54
Causal path for the example shared (policy)
Rene Joy (she/they)
49:05
I see a path from 'political savvy' to start
Ben Treviño (he/him)
49:09
Policymakers are recruited to CoPractices
Ben Treviño (he/him)
49:22
They Apply what they learn in policies proposed
Rene Joy (she/they)
49:37
then "organizing to speak conferences"
Ben Treviño (he/him)
49:42
Will do
Rene Joy (she/they)
50:24
I think that's relevant to how they combine with Brigade needs and National Action Teams
Rene Joy (she/they)
51:17
I super duper appreciate the EasyRetro process for this
Ben Treviño (he/him)
51:29
++
Rene Joy (she/they)
51:56
I think it's important to understand that a *CfA* defined CoPractice is always national in scope?
Ben Treviño (he/him)
52:09
I would bring up the skill building for the purpose of jobs in govt / civic tech as a question
Rene Joy (she/they)
53:26
My search for consensus on that (always national in scope) arises from thinking otherwise it risks dilution/ competition with regional CoPractices that form like that for Hack for LA
Ben Treviño (he/him)
53:42
Comment?
Ben Treviño (he/him)
54:20
In this case, “like” means we want to flag it rather than that we agree with it?
Annie
55:30
No prob! Let me know if I miss merged
Melanie Mazanec (she/her)
56:00
I think the impact column is the one that I’m wondering about the most overall
Em Burnett (they/them)
57:50
Sorry in the same room :D
Rene Joy (she/they)
57:57
I commented it on the community guidelines card just to put it somewhere on the board
Ben Treviño (he/him)
59:23
Who do we want to decide this?
Janet Michaelis (she/her)
59:30
Maybe it would make more sense to start on the right, agree there, then work back…
Melanie Mazanec (she/her)
59:36
++ Janet
Em Burnett (they/them)
59:42
If it feels like a good opportunity, we could devote more time to this in 2 weeks
Mary C Norris
59:56
+1
Yeti Aberra
01:00:41
+1
Mary C Norris
01:01:26
Absolutely!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
01:01:27
Are there any questions that staff can answer or address between now and the next spokes meeting that would support our next meeting?
Yeti Aberra
01:03:02
Another possible question to consider is what would Brigades/Peers want to see from the COP and how would they go about creating and/or participating.
Rene Joy (she/they)
01:03:58
I want to put up a functional limit that exists: there is just one FTE role being developed for a CoPractice, so only 1 formal CoPractice can begin with full CfA support. There's room to conceive of CoPractices existing informally -- one could argue they do already. I don't see anything on the board that contributes to that part of the decisions we need to make as a team.
Janet Michaelis (she/her)
01:04:12
I worry about getting too specific in the middle, and describing detail that ultimately doesn’t allow for the improvisation needed to actually get to the long term goals…
Rene Joy (she/they)
01:04:12
I may not see it because there's a lot and I haven't read every card!
Rene Joy (she/they)
01:05:03
So our consensus needs to be developed for which CoPractice we start with and then how *that* CoPractice should exist, which may not be the same as deciding how any kind of CoPractice exists next.
Annie
01:05:43
Good point.
Yeti Aberra
01:05:48
Consideration to study and delve into the more organic associations and grouping currently within our network that resemble COP of practice. Perhaps the application of the logic model could be tested out in iterative steps to tie how this could support implementation in 2022 and beyond.
Ben Treviño (he/him)
01:05:52
Confirming that point… that is how we are thinking about it
Annie
01:05:55
Resourcing constraints are key to guide our convos
Yeti Aberra
01:06:32
We could create new groups or we could support existing communities of interest and practices.
Mary C Norris
01:06:51
I would think this would be more than a one person responsibility.
Ben Treviño (he/him)
01:07:02
Time check: we are at time!
Rene Joy (she/they)
01:07:06
To that I didn't vocalize but did write that we must understand that CoPractices inherently exist informally -- which is why I wanted to talk about it 'informal/formal' terms
Tim L
01:07:48
@hashim your starship has had some NARROW asteroid collision misses during this meeting
Rene Joy (she/they)
01:07:58
lool tim
Annie
01:08:29
Do we know how CFA staff is expecting to distribute their time across the revisioning verticals?
Hashim Mteuzi
01:08:42
Tim hahahaha
Annie
01:08:47
To understand % full time support we will have?
Janet Michaelis (she/her)
01:08:59
@Tim - Obviously Hashim has a strong deflection field in place!
Rene Joy (she/they)
01:09:23
Thank you all so much!! Jennifer, this was amaazing
Ben Treviño (he/him)
01:09:28
Wonderful workshop, Jennifer!!!
Ben Treviño (he/him)
01:09:31
Thank you!!!!
Janet Michaelis (she/her)
01:09:32
To the pub!
Marianne Anthonette Miranda
01:09:38
Huzzah!
Rene Joy (she/they)
01:09:46
See ya there Janet
Annie
01:09:49
Thanks for facilitating!